Mana is not my problem

thank you!!! it was funny to create!! of course is just an ideal deck because of its money cost!! but you can print it..... ;)

its nice to get them out for cheap, however when you use ammy or piper to play them, they dont get all their effects, for esaple, Emrakul only gives you an extra turn if you CAST him from your hand. not saying the deck wont work, just pointing out that little speedbump. looks like a fun deck.

pretty sure this is meant to be a casual deck, pal. he probably wont be playing against super aggro or turn 3 wins with it....

yes it's just a funny deck!! in my opinion of course....i liked the idea of getting faster powerful creatures as eldrazi

Like I said,...

"This leaves you very vulnerable against Aggro decks and I already established how any deck with removal will crush you. Control decks would be even worse, since by the time you get the Eldrazis in play, they'll likely be able to control them, or, at the very least, lock them down. You can probably beat some combo decks, if they take too much time to get going."

I stand by that statement. I don't see how the fact this is a casual deck changes the relevance of that statement, pal.

Unless, maybe, you know people who build decks that are neither aggro, control, combo nor removal?

Sorry, I'm only trying to be realist here. This kind of deck looks great on paper, but in reality, it's often boring to play, easy to stop and generally inefficient.

I'd simply add stuff to ramp that mana up better/faster and/or stuff to make sure Piper/Rector/Amulet are reliably used. Heck, just draw Sample Hands, you'll see what I mean, so far, I drew a dozen of them and only saw one hand I'd consider "decent", which is, that actually would've got an Eldrazi in play on turn 5.

i dunno i still have to play it so i can't tell you if it's funny to play. I had fun creating it, thinking about the strategies and so on. i like every non common deck and every original one, even if it's not efficient or ready for a tournament. ;)

Yeah, like I said, I like the general idea and everything, if I didn't, I wouldn't "waste" time commenting. Further, this is only my opinion, and I'm far from being a pro player, so feel free to disregard everything I say, I won't take it personal... :)

I'm only trying to help and I'm mostly considering how this would play against my own decks, my friends' decks and..., well..., any other deck that came to my mind as I was writing my comments.

No offense meant, obviously, this is a game and we're all here to have fun.

I totally agree, man! thanks for your "wasting" of time i will think about what you said!!

You're welcome :)

I know....i started with a green/red eldrazi drone based. But it was too slow on paper. I just hope this may work against some kind of decks, maybe not against the fastest!!

That's the problem...everybody is an "expert", and everyone thinks there's an easy fix to every problem. Fact is, no deck is flawless, no deck is impossible to beat. It drives me nuts when people just trash your deck or your idea. When I saw the deck title, I checked it out...I'll never be able to replicate it card for card...but I like the concept. I take your idea, and try to find cards in my collection that can replicate it. I love the idea of putting 10-12 cost creatures into play for 4 mana, or for free with Omniscience. I had the same eureka moment with Recurring Nightmare...a black enchantment that costs 3 mana. Sacrifice a creature, put Recurring Nightmare back in your hand, and put a target creature from your graveyard into play. All I hear is "3 MANA - put ANY creature from grave to play" and started filling my graveyard with Red Dragons, Green Wurms and Blue Leviathans... a mono-black deck that beats his opponent using every color creature BUT black. Yes, it really is as fun as it sounds. =)

yeah! you got my point!!

...and everyone thinks they know everything about everyone else...

Go nuts all you want, but if you disagree with my comments (which I won't take offense to, if anyone does), you can simply say so and provide what you consider to be better advice. I didn't intend to "trash" the deck, I think I simply pointed out its shortcomings. No need to generalize about human nature and imply that my comments are out of place. If someone posts their deck ideas to this site, I expect it's because they want some feedback, which I provided.

I never pretended to be an expert or that my ideas would "fix every problem", since, like you mentioned, no deck is flawless.

ahaha...I come home from work and find an episode of Oprah going on here......lulz


point is, this is a casual/fun deck. Even us tournament players build them to fuck around with when we gat sick of playing our tourney decks (hell, I ran a bad guttersnipe deck in the third Gameday event this last weekend after finishing first and second in the two before) its a game guys.

Sure, but you're pointing out the obvious.

I commented on the deck, which EdoHard seemed to appreciate. He's free to disregard my advice, it's his deck, he plays it how he wants, but since he posted it here, I assume he meant to discuss it.

I'm not sure why you and msquared reacted so negatively to my comments, I think I offered constructive criticism. I probably should've suggested cards, but when I say "Elvish Piper could use Haste, Shroud or Hexproof", I think everyone thinks "Lightning Greaves" or "Swiftfoot Boots" right away, maybe I'm wrong.

I understand that the deck is casual, but it's the first time I see a deck worth commenting that can't get anything in play before turns 4-5, so I asked to know if it works, maybe I came off wrong, but without you two guys making those condescending posts which brought nothing to the discussion, there wouldn't be what you refer to as an "episode of Oprah".

I guess I'm bad at communicating my ideas, English isn't my first language, but still, I don't get why you two didn't simply mind your own business, since EdoHard didn't seem to take offense to my initial comment. My excuses to EdoHard for derailing his comments "thread".

No hard feelings, I know it's only a game, only I've never been afraid to speak my mind and I'm quite verbose, as you probably realized by now. Cheers.

No hard feelings. I was just reacting to the verbal back and forth going on. You can't read intent in every sentence, you may write something plain of fact, but someone reads it like it was an attack.

Likewise, my comments were also taken out of context, I certainly didn't mean to implicate you in my comments. I was speaking in generalities. I keep running across people with the notion that they have the only right view, and that anyone who has a different view is wrong or defective in some way. In Magic, article after article, expert after expert tells players winning strategies, and killer combos, like they have some kind of Magic silver bullet, the strategy that can't be beat. As if winning every game is the only reason to play the game. Pointing out all the ways a deck can be defeated doesn't help anyone, because EVERY deck has multiple ways it can be beat. That's all I'm saying. I am on this site to look for interesting ideas, a different approach to making a deck, inspiration, something I can utilize in my decks.

I have decks that win 80% of the time or more, but I don't enjoy playing that much...I also have decks that lose 75% of the time, that I love to play. So when you say a deck is boring to play, how do you know what other people find boring to play? How is that helpful? The only decks I find boring are decks that begin, play and end the same way every game...to me, that's the definition of boring, because even if I win every game...after five games, the deck is tedious, predictable and no longer holds my interest. But, I recognize that some players consider that the ultimate deck, to always know what cards are coming, and can predict with certainty how every game is played. Different players like different kinds of decks, and different styles of play.

The decks I enjoy most are ones I have been crafting for 10 years or more...removing cards, adding cards, altering it ever so slightly with each new edition. I don't enjoy the flavor of the month...whatever new mechanic Wizards include in the next release. I always take the long view...what's good enough to be a viable strategy now, next year and five years from now.

...of course, since I only have cards going back to 4th edition...if I run into someone with revised cards...fielding Moxes and killing me game after game on turn 3...I might reconsider the long view principle. =)

All good. :)

I perfectly understand what you mean by a boring/winning deck and a fun/losing deck. It's tons more fun trying to win with a "bad" deck than winning every single game the exact same way with an overpowered deck. I played a Food Chain Goblin deck with Goblin Recruiter long enough to know that winning isn't everything.

Finally, when I said the deck looks boring, that was only my opinion, obviously, but still, I think I was wrong. At first, I figured this played like any of the Tinker decks which fetch OP Artifacts that should never be in play on turn 3, but considering there's no fetch cards here, I see I was wrong that there's a "random factor" which means this deck will play different at every game and keep things interesting.