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Much like the Vintage Black control, but a little bit more affordable without the black lotus and mox jet. For those that don't understand the deck; Drop Juzam Djinn or Hypnotic Specter, then Nether Void, by the time they can play anything to stop your advancement you've either beat them with Juzam Djinn of whittled away their hand with hypnotic specter. The Mox Diamond's, Lotus Petal's, and Chrome Mox help get these cads played quickly, coupled with Dark Ritual... it's not too hard to pull off. If you manage not to get Void in your first hand, Hypnotic Specter, Hymn to Tourach and Extirpate tend to weaken you opponent very quickly and when adding Sinkhole into the equation, you slow them down even more. Maze of Ith help defend yourself since you only have 8 creatures in the deck. Sideboard is pretty basic, Gloom to replace Void when playing white, only because it can stack with other Gloom's, where as Nether Void can only have one copy out at a time since it is a World Enchantment. Black Knight and Phyrexian Crusader help pound on white and the crusader help avoid burn decks and can infect them to death if need be. Dunerider Outlaw helps against those pesky elf decks and sudden death, like Extirpate, has Split-Second and cannot be countered, makingit great for those annoying blue legacy counterspell decks. So, the deck works great, the only downside i've had with this deck is sometimes i empty my hand too quickly and run out of steam. This happens maybe 1 out of 5 times i play, but still, it is a weakness to the deck... any good suggestions are welcome... Sign in Blood has been a card i've been thinking about adding, but the rest of the cards all have their function... so... suggestions please, but try to think about what you're taking out and make sure it won't leave a major gap in the function of the deck. Thanks!
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I like mainboard Thoughtseize better than Extirpate and mainboard Wasteland better than Maze of Ith. Have you thought about Trinispheres to provide a similar effect to Nethervoid? You already have a lot of mana excell, but I still like some combination of Ancient Tombs and City of Traitors to fuel decks like this. Still like the deck. It looks like fun to play.
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I really like Extirpate in Legacy... 1) it can't be countered. 2) After Hymn to Tourach nails them for a key card, you can remove all of them and mak their combo disappear. How is wasteland better? They're different types of land entirely? Maze of Ith is in there to protect me, not to add more land removal. I do like wasteland, but the purpose of Maze of Ith is defense. And if my opponent is playing a nearly creatureless deck i just swap them for more creatures in the sideboard. My main concern is stated above. Got any suggestions on that? I'm all ears...
I believe lotus petal is restricted to one to a deck You also don't have sol ring, though you don't have a whole lot of colorless casting costs and phylactery lich is quite similar to the djinn though costs 1 Cnc less so can be dark ritualed out and is indestructable however you'd want to increase your artifacts, if you did go for the lich 4x the black artifact lands would almost be necessairy
Sol Ring is banned in Legacy and Lotus petal is not and not restricted. Lich isn't bad, but Juzam works just fine and i don't have to have an artifact in play to drop him onto the board. Your dea's are interesting though. When New Phyrexia comes out, I plan on replacing Juzam Djinn with Phyrexian Obliterator, that card is leaps and bounds better.
To be perfectly honest, since this can establish such an explosive advantage at this rate, while risky, you might want to test with good ol Bob(Dark Confidant) I think either your Chrome Mox, or one of the Diamonds could probably be dropped, or perhaps even some rituals. Bob has a good chance of hurting you yes, but looking at the way this deck is built he's actually more likely to just hit you with the minor things.
I actually considered droppping chrome mox and a mox diamond for whatever card drawing machine people came up with. Bob sounds like a good way to go, plus he can also be fodder for removal, counterspells, and a blocker. And the highest casting cost i have is 4... not too painful.
Had any testing time with Bob? I'm interested in how the fatherdeck(yes, your deck is now the Germany to my MBC) is fairing.
It has play tested quite well, although one game i ran out of steam and never drew him and that mad me sad... I used 4 proxy versions of the New Phyrexia card; Phyrexian Obliterator, and swapped out the maze of ith's. It's much more aggressive and added more creatures to gain the early upper hand. I can't wait to get me a playset of that card.
You should also use the new card Surgical Extraction over Extirpate I think, it allows more liberal use of mana than extirpate, at the cost of 2 life to play instead. Phyrexian Obliterater is going to cause a LOT of problems for people, but oddly enough I haven't found somewhere to use him personally. I'm glad Bob works out for you when you get him, he's the black Xantid Swarm to me. Yeah they can play spells, but it's a similar amount of advantage.
Well hyrexian Obliterator is a must for replacing Juzam when it is printed, he just adds so much extra control to the deck. I like surgical Extraction, but in Vintage and Legacy, Split Second is a must versus blue, force of will is too much of a pain in the ass and it's nice to have uncounterable spells, hence the reason there are four Sudden Death's in my sideboard.
I'm testing it with a great success rate, it forces them to use their resources early, which allows more freedom in my madness.
BTW, check out my W/R control deck... it's a total douche to play against. Lots of removal and creatures can't attack you, you just wait and burn them to death. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=175047
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your deck seems overly reliant on either of Hypnotic Specter or Juzam Djinn pushing through. Usually my creatures are removed very easily so i doubt yours can hang around for long Dont forget since you dont have removal so you may need to chump block with I think the win-con is not good enough or sufficient at the moment.
Hyppie and juzam sadly are outclassed now. Acceleration is hardly needed for control decks which just wants stability. Having a better mana curve works. Nighthawk is pseudo removal and pure lifegain. So far can only rem that.
If you run out of cards why not find a way to put in sign in blood or phyrexian arena/dark tutelage