deities reverse

very easy to pull off

Your missing the key reason Survival of the Fittest actually made it to the top in 1998. Silver Bullets and Genesis. Just saying, I have mine posted online so anyone can take a look, yourself included if you want to see what I mean.

genesis has no use in the deck i have constructed, i dont want the creatures in my hand i want them in the graveyard, and i cant find silver bullets

Wait, do you not know what the term Silver Bullet is?

nope

Sigh... Sliver Bullets refers to cards that come into play, do something, and then their ability does not really matter. Flametounge Kavu, Harmonic Sliver, Avalanche Riders, Mesmeric Fiend, Boneshredder etc etc... are SIlver Bullets, they come in and destroy something and then are nothing but a creature.

Sigh... Sliver Bullets refers to cards that come into play, do something, and then their ability does not really matter. Flametounge Kavu, Harmonic Sliver, Avalanche Riders, Mesmeric Fiend, Boneshredder etc etc... are SIlver Bullets, they come in and destroy something and then are nothing but a creature.

Sigh... Sliver Bullets refers to cards that come into play, do something, and then their ability does not really matter. Flametounge Kavu, Harmonic Sliver, Avalanche Riders, Mesmeric Fiend, Boneshredder etc etc... are SIlver Bullets, they come in and destroy something and then are nothing but a creature.

Thats kinda awkward, they really need to fix this browser stuff.

im not interested in them for this deck, i would much rather do 20 damage with the hellkites for the win

Your not playing any kinda of protection, I do not see it holding up against someone who actually comes prepared to an enviroment. You could at the very least play some Duress to put up some kind of fight.

soem kind of fight, i have tested this deck a ton, if u wait for the right moment, ie when the opponent has lands tapped out etc. then this deck is extremely effective, unless im playing a control deck i wouldnt have much to worry about anyway, i dont notice that many counters in peoples decks

thanks theoritition1080, i would agree

Not even worrying about counter. There are other ways to deal with this kind of deck: Krosan Grip (Survival of the Fittest), Graveyard Hate in the form of Tormod's Crypt, Leyline of the Void, Planar Void. If someone throws any of those cards out on you then it is game over. Enough said, Duress effectively takes care of ALL those cards on TURN 1 and eliminates some counter. Btw, I wonder who theorition1080 really is? lol hmmm....

Heck, even Wheel of Sun and Moon targeting you is going to lose you the game :P

theoritition1080 is my little brother actually, did u really think i would create another account to boister myself

I dunno if you would or not, I just see someone who does not realize that just because you build something and play it against some people, you suddenly assume you have something amazing. I am only pointing out the flaws and telling you what you can do to simply avoid a disaster and you choose to avoid that disaster and move on thinking it would never happen.

wheel of sun and moon is useless unless u incorporate it into a combo, who would have one otherwise

In Sideboard, so it really is not a worthless card considering Green and White ONLY has Artifact cards for Graveyard hate. So why not use Wheel of Sun and Moon to just put the cards back into their deck? Duh.

I like how you called Wheel of Sun and Moon worthless, yet you do not see it completely opened a door for Green/White to be able to hate on Graveyards effectively without having to rely on Black Splash, or using the less useful Artifact cards.

first off i dont play with sideboards, and second there have got to be better options for one then the off hand chance that the opponent will use the graveyard in a combo, i have only ever built 2 decks that focus on the graveyard in about 200 hundred total decks, im really not that worried about my opponents

i can deff c how it would work, but it is way too specific for me

ouch man, i may not have any deck yet but im workin on it

Thats why you cant beat people at a higher tournament level, because you do not understand the importance of having a Sideboard built custom to the enviroment nor do you understand just how useful the graveyard is. Actually, there is NOT a better option. You have a card that sits in play and never lets their graveyard fill up with anything. You think the graveyard is not so important, huh? If I asked you what the best Sorcery in Vintage is, you would probably not even guess it.

probubly not, and i have never played at a tournament

Then if you have not, do not try to tell me what is important and what is not lol! If I wanted to be cruel, I would be on this site giving everyone TERRIBLE bad advice and letting people role with it and laughing to myself. Instead, I am actually giving everyone here the advice they need to get better. If I say something is important or key, it probably is. It is a whole other world when you play in an event and play at the kitchen table, I have seen people lose for not putting Living Wish in their Sideboard after exchanging it with a card in the Sideboard.

so now because i dont play in tournaments i have no value or worthy advice, congrats on ur fame and fortune but i play magic because it is a challenge and to relax, i am quite good at it and actually i have beaten 3 pros from california 2-0 in all 3 matches. i have never given bad advice on purpose and then laughed about it, that would be a retarded waste of time, it is impossible for u to prove that not having a single card in a deck would save a loss due to the implications of chaos theory which is a whole nother story, i would appreciate u not insulting me by basically saying that im worthless

I dont recall myself calling you worthless, if you want to scroll up and read then do so by all means! I would be glad to look over it myself and see where the words ever mentioned You and Worthless besides the ones I just used, and the ones you just used yourself! lol Nor did I ever say you gave out bad advice, might want to scroll up and look at that again and read for yourself. Who says someone can not compete and relax and have fun? Want to bet having one card in a deck will not save you? lol It has been proven many times, how many Grand Prix have started out a game with Duress? A TON. How many have started with Goblin Lackey only to be met by Swords to Plowshares? Far to many to count on. How many combo decks have been stopped while tapped out by Daze and Force of Will? Far to many to count. If you want me to blatantly criticize I can. Is that what you want? I like how you do not worry about Counter just because they are tapped out, considering 2 of the top Counter cards do not use any Mana to cast.

Actually, if you want to look at your better retarded deck and read the last comment I left you awhile ago, you might be surprised. Look if you want to, your choice. its the deck you did in response to mine...

and if u read more carefully i say "basically calling me worthless", and i am willing to take the risk on the 0 land counters, if they do counter me i will wait another few turns and do it again, and a single card has a % value of ever being seen in the game being played, i fully recognize that a single card, if played, will have an impact, u would have to be stupid not to, but i am saying that a single card, statistically, has a small chance of seeing the field

alright, lets cool off, its all good

LOL Who said to include just 1? As I have said before. consistency (Which you have done in the deck above) is important, I rarely ever play 1 or 2 of a card! What would make me ever want to play 1 Duress? Nothing. Playing 4 Duress is a standard in most cases, it is one of the BEST Black Spells Printed. I think I can cut some cards to guarentee myself some safety and protection instead of going for broke and not worrying about anything. Still, I do not see that you have looked at the deck I told you to look at, oh well. And once again, you just assume you will get through again on another Turn. Sorry, a good player is NOT going to counter ANYTHING in this deck above. They are going to sit and just counter the graveyard revival cards and just let it be. Thats only 8 cards, pretty sure a standard good counter deck with control will run 4 Daze, 4 Counterspell, 4 Force of Will, probably some offrand stuff like Rune Snag (4 to make them good), Mana Leak (maybe) and lots of draw. Thats a total of atleast 16 Counterspell in a Slow Playing deck to your 8 cards. Do the Math.

I agree

i appreciate that u think i have potential, and i c that my graveyard is vulnerable, but i still think that a non control deck, say another combo deck or beatdown deck, would have a hard time making their themes work and messing with me at the same time

An aggro deck does not have any real problem with this deck. You have a few walls to stop them... Thats not much. Most aggro decks can win before mid game, this deck you have really does not have the chance to go off until about mid game or less. Sure the walls can block, but good aggression comes with good removal to clear a path. It just makes sense to run burn with aggro because it is perfect together. Spot Removal/Win Conditions combined with Effective creatures that are cheap and efficient just make sense. Where another deck will have the occasional removal to handle cards here and there, you dont. Thats the problem. And against another true combo deck, you can look at my Worldgorger Dragon Deck or DarksteelToad's Charbelcher deck and see that both those decks are legal and both can go off on turn 1 easily. Infact, they rarely ever get past turn 3. The reason I suggest my Survival of the Fittest is because it is not a combo deck, if you can avoid combo do it, it is in all truth a Aggro Deck with a very refined Search card to get exactly what it needs to deal with any situation.

Anyway, it is late and I have another event tommorow. Look into the comments I have left on this site, cant miss em they are so fing huge, and just read and think about what I am saying no matter how crazy it sounds. *Cough* Planeswalkers *Cough* overrated! *Cough* etc etc. It sounds crazy, but just look at those things and youll see where I get my ideas from.

aight im on it, and i have never used a plainswalker, they seem kinda pointless to me

talk to u later

Seeya, and Yes THEY ARE lol

Have no fear Gandalf the Grey is here! (approximately 4 days late, I am left only with the scattered remains of what was a great battle, reminiscent of mines of Moria. I digress) If anyone is going to be doing bolstering of the reputation of dknight27 (whom I shall now refer to as Wisenheimer) its going to be his quasi-involved in magic the gathering friend who only made an account for instances such as this. Given rileyandholly88 ( whom I shall now refer to a Juan Martin Del Potro) appears to know his stuff and is giving fine advice which Wisenheimer could use to become tournament quality, you have to remember one thing Juan. Wisenheimer does use magic as a main source of relaxement, being constantly on the verge of casting a fireball on those surrounding him, and you know his got like 50 mana tapped. With this said and Juan willing, I say lets keep these good advice festivities coming. Now lets move onto the more important topics such as, what does gandalfthegrey have to say about Weisenheimer's deck. I know I have told you this a million times but have you tried killing an ex-general fire demon servant of Morgoth? How to kill a Balrog:Induce heart attack Preperations: shanking device, defibrillator, and a mountain with lake. So you lure said Balrog up the mountain and his pretty sure his got you trapped and just as his about to eat your soul. You fake the fake right. so of course he misses and you both tumble off the mountain. At this point his like wtf, so you keep stabbing him, so his getting really worked up. Step 2: You crash into the adequately placed lake. This drops his body temperature about 200 F. His got the shakes, his homeostasis is all out of wak and you keep stabbing him. His freaking out by now, luckily his lust for blood urges him on. Step 3: Fight him up the mountain. How often do Balrog's run, they dont, they sit in there room crying all day that Morgoth is gone listening to Whisper Wall.OK so they have bad calisthenics abilities. So our friend the Balrog has been tossed off a mountain, dosed in water, and ran up a mountain, all the while, if youve been doing your job, being stabbed. His basically already a goner. Step 4: The finishing move. Lunge forward and defibrillate his poor fragile heart. Ya!

gandalf u r my hero

Chapter One : The Meeting of Time


So there i was banging slam pieces at a party in my frat house. The night was so flame, everyone was having fun. Then i noticed someone walk through the door, it was a little old man with a large walking stick and gnarly beard. I yelled at the stranger, "Hey grandpa, the retirement home is a few blocks up the street!" Some of my bros and i broke out into a great big laugh, it was dank. Yet the old man continued to move slowly into the house, when he finally found his place at an empty table in the middle of the room. I was intrigued by this person, there was something different about him, i needed to know more. I examined his face, it was battered and mysterious. Whethere by time or from a painful past i did not know. But when our eyes met, i suddenly knew why he was here. I thought to myself, "i have to make sure this old man knows i mean business". Then i raised my middle and pointer finger to my forhead and poof!!! i was sitting directly across from the old man. As he pulled out his deck i asked him, "did you like that trick?" he gently smiled as i pulled my deck out as well, and said, "The instant transmission, of course. It's one of my favorite techniques..." Then out of nowhere he had my deck in his hand and once again a grin covered his face. I was in utter shock, i said, "How did you do that? there are only a few people on earth that possess the skill and knowledge of such a technique!?!? Do you have any idea how long it took me to..." suddenly i was cut off mid sentence, his grin faded and turned to a very serious and proud stare. "Do not lecture me on the instant transmission, i was there when it was invented" With this being said we both examined our hands and he elected that i go first. The duel of ages had just begun.

LOL That story reminds me of Me... and dkight :P interesting.

i call the old man

Sorry, but if you really want to look into the story here... I am the old Man, and the old Man BETTER have a Long White BEARD that can hold a Knife in it! Cause that would be the tits!

haha, be sure to check this deck once a week, dudebrodank69 says he is going to write weekly installments