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it is a hope to see something like this in a tourney and do pretty good. well i want to aim for a standard tourney to see it but i am pos a modern or possibly legacy version of this could see play.

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do not take out slumbering dragon. it slows down aggro decks and can be used as one drop removal with scourge on the board.

take out Wild Guess for Thundermaw Hellkite until rotation. I have a very similar decklist, and it runs better than you would think on MTGO.

lol wasnt planing on it till after rotation. wild guess is a better card here for my deck than the hellkite to me. problem with mono red, u lake draw power when u run outta gas. thundermaw is already a kill on its own anyways.

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add shivan dragon to it

haha yah i have been thinking of making it part blue. blue will have better defenses against most things and has better draw spells. im just experimenting with a mono red version of it really. gotta be different and difficult i guess hahaha. anyone can make this with another color and boost the power.

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No doubt, well you should totally add in some infernal plunge, sac the dragon egg for mana, get another dragon and probably play a dragon like valkas or archwing

i thought about it but it gets plenty of mana already it might be a lil much doing that.

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If you are thinking of splashing anything, I would suggest green. Garruk, Caller of Beast's emblem is a wicked combo with the Scourge. Plus it allows great midgame draw.

eh i have done plenty r/g dragon decks, they r too easy for me. i want a challenge here that can be some what competitive.

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problem with both in this is the mana curve will be very high then. that and like i said before thundermaw is a kill on its own without the others in the deck..

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skullcrack may be an option but again, thundermaw is a kill on its own. i dont need it in this build. idk about macap skills...

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skullcrack is better in the sideboard against lifegainers. spear is much more useful

i was thinking the same thing really. it is an awesome tool against the pesky life gain decks..

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Do you need an instant speed Wild Guess?

Not really, I just needed something to back up my idea.

Haha! Then i guess that works!

-_- everyone is suggestin that, i may make a new version tomorrow that is r/b to see how it will compare. some pretty awesome ideas guys, like em alot.

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Nope, it's horrible. 2 Dragonspeaker Shaman and 2 Crucible of Fire would be totally better. And maybe some Desperate Ritual ;)

Yeah, Cause ya know... This isn't standard or anything...

And what? Half comments tell him to make it blue/red, some of them tell him nothing (like your) and my tells him to go Legacy. I don't see any problem. My comment is still more usefull than your ;)

Let me propose to you a question. What's better, no advice, or a bunch of advice you don't want? He is making a standard deck, therefor he wants advice that pertains to standard. If this were to be made legacy it would be completely different. My comment wasn't made to give HIM advice, but rather you.

If he is gonna do legacy there is no reason he would build it like that, generally the only legacy dragon deck worth building is dragonstorm, no other dragon decks can come close to that and thats a 100% different way to do things. Adding blue is a great idea if he were to go that route he could keep it standard but run draws and counters to keep his early game running well and shut the opponent down. not to mention my opinion of call to the kindred keeps it standard and runs a serious threat in the early/mid game range.
Keeping it red tho is fine as well, straight aggro is mean as it gets and it runs better consistency.
Mono red just gives him the option of burns instead of counters, just as mean if used correctly. And thanks to a few new cards red has a decent draw theme to it now, granted discarding is involved, but that's the price ya gotta pay sometimes.

HotPoloPlayer and chew yall have it right. yes i can make this anything i want, but the challenge is to stay in the standard scene and keep it mono red. thought after tons of research i might branch off this and make a r/b version of this tomorrow lol.

thanks for all the comments though everyone, didnt think anyone would like it that much, was a random challenge/idea i had haha.

btw chew, a legacy dstorm isnt the only option my friend;) gimme some time and ill make a wild monster for a dragon deck. it may not be super powerful compared to dstorm, but it will pack a couple surprises in it ;)

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D storm sounds very dirty...

HPP, have u never seen a Dstorm deck????? click my name here man, i have my more budget friendly dstorm on here. its not as strong as the tourney one that won in 06 but it does the job against my buddies hehe >:D

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I have indeed seen a Dragonstorm deck before, just hadn't heard anyone abbreviate it like that.

haha aight. maybe its just me but i always call it that. mostly for that very reason ppl look at u funny and dont have a clue what deck u r about to slaughter them with >:D

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Haha! A mighty fine reason.

it is indeed. lol all my friends know the deck so i had to do something diff, otherwise no one would duel me. kinda like my jund deck. i break that out aaaand no one wants to play with me..

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Hate when that happens.

yah..... i had to destroy my bolas deck b/c of that too. i could take down 3 other players on my own with it. not my fault i know how to make a strong deck lol.

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Haha! Very true.

yuuuuup. well on a side note this has gotten more attention than i imagined it would. yay! lol

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so Geistflame is shit.

Yea you can make a dragon deck in legacy that's not dragon storm but no dragon deck can compare to a Dstorm deck, but sure demon I'm interested in your legacy dragon deck without Dstorm, I have no doubt you can make it nasty. Haha and Dstorm decks have made me sour towards them :p my friend has a vintage Dstorm deck that wins with the first 2 turns on average, horrible deck to try and beat haha forced me to make a deck that can win with in 3 turns average to face it or there's no point haha

Replace Geistflame with Skullcrack. That's a solid recommendation.

haha well chew i made one last night. its not super powerful like Dstorm but its something i think would be a blast to run lol.

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my mana curve is pretty high already so idk if the door will work here. utvara hellkite is what ur thinking of andits just a win more card really in here lol.

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Door of Destinies would be great because of Archwing Dragon though. You can keep casting it turn after turn and make your dragons stronger every turn! Take out a couple of Geistflames for Door, and maybe fill it in with another low cost burn spell and I think this deck would be stronger for it, even with the higher curve.

you want to be dealing damage on every turn possible. Door slows this deck down considerably. the tradeoff isnt worth it.

those r my thoughts too. i thought door would only be like an anchor for the deck.

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that might be something to think about now that u mention it.

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yah it is a very nice card lol. if i go black then i could use heartless summoning and just release some serious shennanigans lol.

i do have a r/b version of this deck made just for the giggles.

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thx. yup it might make for an interesting casual sorta deck if u go that route. lol.

sure ill check it out

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