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My goal is to mill as effectively in 1 v 1 or multiplayer settings. Suggestions are welcome.
The main goal is to get to a quick start. Hedron crab is amazing. Scheming symmetry will help archive trap as well as setting up your next draw such as getting an surgical extraction or crypt incursion against those pesky eldrazi or to removal a combo piece. Crypt incursion also buffs up that life total, giving us more time to grind out a win
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A little pricier, but I've seen it used to great effect, this seems like it would fit in here:https://www.mtgvault.com/card/glimpse-the-unthinkable/IMA/And Mind Funeral can be a great play too:https://www.mtgvault.com/card/mind-funeral/ARB/A play set of both will run you around 25-30 bucks but together they can put an opponents deck into the graveyard pretty quick.At 13 cents apiece these aren't horrible for a land addition:https://www.mtgvault.com/card/nephalia-drownyard/ISD/Obviously you don't want too many but it can add a late game, no cards in hand option.Once you have their graveyard there you might want to try a Crypt Incursion to replenish the life you've probably lost.https://www.mtgvault.com/card/crypt-incursion/DGM/They run cheap too. About ten cents a piece.
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I have glimpse the unthinkables. I was between crypt incursion and tormods crypt since i need to deal with emrakul in my playgroup. Mind funeral is a great card. Would you replace mind funeral with the twincasts? Thanks for all the help!
Well Tormod's is cool, you can Also try Ashiok:https://www.mtgvault.com/card/ashiok-dream-render/WAR/As far as Twincasts vs Mind Funeral go I'd say play it both ways and see which it goes. I like Mind Funeral better in a dual colored deck-but I can see where you'd get value either way!
When you want your mill to be fast, there is one thing you need to do, and that is to make sure you mill fast enough to disrupt the others strategy.One of the key cards for that is surgical extraction, or when facing counter spells, extirpate. Both takes some practice to use, but they are essentially key to slow down aggro long enough to win. My favourite version of mill is always one where i play 6 of these and 3 chancellor of the Spires.Symmetry only helps a trap in your hand, so you might want to consider noxious revival. One way to expand on symmetry is to use shriekhorn, which mills 6 cards and is colourless compared to tome scour.Mesmeric orb is usually a must but demands skill. It is superb in group play.Archive trap is best with forced searches, and you can try out fertillid, noble benefactor and the new ghost quarter which also demands a search. Then there are volunteer searches with cards like veteran explorer (yup, fertillid veteran trap can lead to guy mill)I suggest that you build your mill so that only three cards in your deck doesn't mill, and those three cards will be either spent on anti-aggro or anti graveyard.You mention emrakul, and I can suggest faerie macabre which may cover both functions, hating the grave or chump blocking.There are so many ways to mill, but milling more is always better. Test out cards by using tokens for each card they mill and if you do it well enough you will learn what mills the most.
The only barrier to Surgical extraction, which is admittedly an outstanding card, is price. At a low of 25 dollars to a price that can be quite a bit higher it represents a pretty serious investment. but I think you summed up the strategy really well-fast enough to disrupt an opponent's strategy!
I'm a serious killer:)Recently I based my mill on walls and draws and traps in an esper shell.Some of the new cards almost seems as if they were designed with my deck in mind.I also think that new mill have enough milling creatures to make a pure mill-creature deck valid.I usually tested each new millcard extensively so I could comment on it.
I'm a serious killer... ? Heh, gotta love the phone auto spelling. I once sms'ed about something and threw monkeypainting into the conversation. I wrote I'm a serious miller, just for the courtroom;)
personally I would include green so you can use cards that allow you to put down more lands, making hedron crab more effective. You might also want to include howling mine. This will give them more cards, but is effective at milling.
Yeah, hedron scapeshift have been done before.And the autocorrect on my phone is at it again. I write hedron it writes Hadron. We should suggest r&d that they make a hedron collider just for the havoc it will cause.
I was on the fence about adding green. I think I'll mess around with it. Thanks!
I may have forgotten to mention that shriekhorn mills more than tome scour, and it 'helps' your mana base by being colourless.
If I didn't think of it last time, adding relic of progenitus to the maindeck will be a way to draw scheming symmetry when mesmeric orb is in play, just do it at their end of turn.
Good idea didn't even think of that
I'm also known as a fierce hater of visions from beyond!I've argued many times over and over that it was only good back when snapcaster mage were in mill.Here's my argument for cutting it in your deck.Stream of thought is a multitool for millers, and I explain why in my "stream of thought mill" in your deck it would be the first card to mill the opponent, you decide what to reshuffle into your own deck which means you can set up an early mission briefing exploiting the grave at turn 2. By reshuffling mill you increase the odds of drawing mill, so in a way stream of thought works as a bad visions of beyond, but it is wondrous at many other aspects.I can see that mission briefing is nice with visions, and could actually be the replacement card of snapcaster in mill, which means that the key to mission briefing is to see what the past used snapcaster to revive. (The answer is surgical extraction, extirpate, archive trap and glimpse, and visions of beyond.I think I will replay visions of beyond, to study the interaction with mission briefing to see what is best to use with it."Visions of beyond versus stream of thought" yeah I'll have to do that one ;)For now just consider the idea, and I will run the tests and report my findings.
To make things complex there are now several cards covering the same niche.Augur of bolas, mission briefing, snapcaster mage and watchers of tomorrow.I discovered the watchers when researching the mill-decks played this year.It lead to a post about uro-mill.