Killer infinite mana

Yeah! I'll always remember the first time I got the Pili-Pala and Grand Architect combo and then used skyscribing and then conflagrate. It was glorious! Glorious I say! lol, but that happens rarely.

palladium myr + 2 myr galvanizers

Nice idea! However, I can't put the galvanizers in without taking out something that's important. Plus, they would only affect palladium myr and each other, they don't benefit the rest of the deck unlike the other combo cards.

(drools) YES! Get all the combos out faster! I love it! What should I take out for the counters do you think?

Enter the infinate is really cool, but i dont know if its neccisary. Your going to win in one turn regardless, so drawing with skyscribing will be enough. Plus, you can just draw more cards in general with it as you can pay what you want. of course, the downside being they get the same amoutn of cards, so if you dont get alot of card advanatge. I would only run one or the other IMO.

As for the bounce to add/control to add, ensanre is good to get yourself a turn at the cost of 2 islands, setting you back, but possibly saving your life too.

Vapor Snag is always a safe pick, as it lets you deal with a threat immediatly.

Control wise, Conterspell or Mana Leak are solid in almost any blue deck.

Thanks, love the idea of ensnare! Putting both that and counterspell in.

but it gives you a buttload of colorless, plus with gemstone array out, that problem is gone, but it becomes pointless :P

Yeah, good point there. Know any cards that will reduce the red mana cost? I still want two infinite mana combos in here, so I'm not giving up on it just yet!

Ruby Medallion will do that.

No, that's still reducing cost of colorless mana, It's that annoying red mana to cast him that I want gone. So far all I've found that can reduce cost by one red mana is ragemonger, and he will not work in this deck. Sigh.

Hmmm..... Manaforge cinder and smokebraider might do the trick but they both have weaknesses. Manaforge cinder can only activate three times and I'd need something to untap smokebraider, who will only work for elementals too, making it deadweight unless I get ignus out... There's also sisters of the flame, which will be more reliable if I get a way to untap it.

deadeye navigator and palinchron is a good combo though it is a bit high in cmc
but with the bit of ramp in the deck already it wouldnt be to difficult to get out sooner
this is the link to my infinite mana deck if you want to have a look at some other combos http://www.mtgvault.com/pretz/decks/edh-mill-counter/
its very hard to get infinite coloured mana for low cmc

The combo that comes to mind to use with Grinning Ingus for infinite mana is Paradise Mantle on Sunstrike Legionaire. I have a deck that uses the Sunstrike Legionaire + Elemental Mastery so it wouldn't be hard to add Grinning Ingus... might do that later.

That would only affect Pili-Pala, nothing else uses colorless mana to activate an ability. Good idea though.

never mind, changed the grinning ignus combo to something that used training grounds, helps a lot now. :D

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Haha! Seriously though, man; well done.

I think Grinning Ignus and Semblance Anvil pair very well together. How is that not an infinite combo? as long as you have an untapped Mountain or two, you can play Red Sun's Zenith, Blaze, Comet Storm, etc. I say to keep the combo.

Thing is, it costs one red to get him back into my hand, and he only gives me 2 colorless and one red for it. Even with semblance anvil, I need to use one red to get him out, but there's still the cost of his ability to pay each time, so every time, I'm drained by one red mana, since I need two to get him out and back every time and he only supplies one each time I send him back, so it doesn't go infinite. If I use gemstone array then it can go infinite, but I'll get no mana for it. That's what magic man and DragonWolf7 pointed out (I didn't see that shortcoming either until they did.) That's why I'm considering scrapping it. While it can supply a nice amount of colorless mana, I would prefer something that can go infinite if possible.

if you put in training grounds and karn, silver golem than it will give you infinite colourless mana
but that combo will be very unreliable as its five cards
proberly better to scrap it and put in a different combo thats low cards like deadeye navigator and palinchron

Yeah, definitely agree that the fewer cards in a combo the better.

Replaced it with voltaic construct, training grounds, and either alloy or palladium myr. That should give me infinite I hope. Was sad to see aminar go though. :(

I didn't even think of that, Cithiri; that's a good point. There is an infinite mana combo you can use. I thought about doing it in one of my decks, but they are kinda split between two of them. It doesn't supply infinite colored mana, but it is infinite colorless mana with no charge. Midnight Guard, Mana Echoes, and Elemental Mastery. Just an idea. I'll see if I can think of something that fits your colors.

yeh thats a really good combo for infinite if you wanted to you could put in power artifact which does the same as training grounds but doesnt require the artifact to be a creature and play it on grim monolith which also gives you infinite colourless

also seaming you already have paradise mantel and training grounds in the deck you could put in knacksaw clique to get the infinite mill combo
possible replace ensnare and counterspell with this as hese two cards dont really go towards your win condition especially ensnare

Nice! Like that idea! But ensnare is in there to stop an opponent from attacking, that way I don't have to chose between losing life or blocking with creatures necessary for the combos, so it stays.

Ok yeh wasn't sure of what you were going to use it for but yeh that's always good to have to buy time

Ah, good to know. Thanks!

No problem :). If you like infintie combo's go check out my bant buzzlightyear. Pretty much infinite everything, as well as my commander deck has some fun stuff with it

Good idea with lightning greaves and paradise mantle, I like it! But I'm keeping conflagrate in because once I get infinite mana I can kill everything, not just one person with it. Even if conflagrate is countered, it has flashback, and the infinite draw can make that lethal too.

Another thing I just realized Skyscribing would make you loose at the same time since you would both draw evenly. Perhaps a dif draw like Blue Sun's Zenith or Braingeyser.

that's what training grounds does, heartstone has a higher CMC and reduces effect cost by less.

oona queen of the fae would be better

or mindshrieker

ya those would be game enders for sure

Great suggestions! Thanks!

Thanks! :D

Thank you for the criticism. I'm definitely not a master at mtg, I'm still a big time novice, but I'm trying to improve my decks and get better. that's why I post my ideas on this site, so I can get advice and criticism. While it is true that this deck doesn't have much defense and it is just a race to get my combo cards out, it's still fun to play in a casual setting. Thanks for telling me everything that's wrong with the deck, that's a lot more helpful than people just saying "nice" or "good job" so no, I'm not going to downvote you.

Since I got rid of prosperity for braingeyser, yes, it is a better fit for the deck now. I'll still sideboard conflagrate though, for large multiplayer matches so I can kill everyone at once.