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I'm not one for monoblue but i really like this its quite unique!
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thanks,
iv added Amoeboid Changeling and downpour to help with targeting if you do have dismiss into dream on the field, reduced the amount of dismiss into dreams, aetherize and got rid of all cancels (not dissolves)
the reason for amoeboid is he is an illusion technically and he can target creatures, downpur was added because you can target 3 creatures
I think that you should replace illusory angels and phantom beasts with unsummons and other removal. But I like the deck. BTW, you have a great combo. Phantasmal image copying lord of the unreal is great.
What about Counterspell instead of Cancel?
I would also add Negate
I love all of the Phantam cards in this deck! What about adding a sideboard?
Mana leak is one of the best cheap(money-wise) counterspells in modern.definitely add them.Also, you might want to try arm with æther or vapor snag. Maybe jace's phantasm if you add enough counter spells and other removal, like rapid hybridization.most of these creatures tend to be able to go toe-to-toe or top the token made by it, especially with Lord of the unreal.
It would be pretty awesome in modern.you have my like
im prob gona make this modern
Since this is Legacy, I would reccomend Ponder and Preordain. They are awesome in legacy!
Dismiss to Dream would fit nicely in here and give you a good way of removing creatures providing you have some creatures of your own with target abilities.
Yes, but it's fairly expensive to cast, and ætherize doesn't target them. If you counter the spell, then it doesn't matter anyways. Even if you bounce creatures back to their hand, then you most likely could just counter them or cast a bigger creature by the time they cast it again.essentially, unless they add more removal, dismiss into dream is pointless. And removal usually means it removes the card already, so the enchantment would seem pointless in his situation.
they also cant target their creatures, good against heroic type decks and such or green buf
^ that right there is precisely why its a good fit. Hoplites are the bane of standard right now
Who plays hoplites in modern though? Besides, phantasmal image can copy themwhen they are too big of a threat, and there's also about five good flyers and krovikan mist to defend against them.Also, counter spells and bounce cards eat heroic up.I just don't think it's a valid card at the moment. Side board it in case of heroic.
its a theme deck man. it fits the theme. thats really the only answer you need. so its too expensive to cast? so what. unless he is playing in a tournament or something, he will likely be able to get it out when he has the mana for it. its a kitchen table deck, so chillax
exactly, all i do is make themed decks lol^
i want to make this so i can try it out. looks so fun to play :D
I like this deck alot, I have already started building my own lol. The only thing Im thinking of though is Kira won't save your illusions only itself, Lord, and Krovikan. Then the dismiss into dreams is so costly and by the time you use it, do you even really have anything to make it count? Aetherize itself is expensive. The combo is so situational and costly.
if its countered then its like they were never targeted
Illusions trigger from just being targeted, the only way to save it is to counter the trigger or remove it from the stack. If you have Kira and a Bear out, and a spell targets the Bear, both the Bear and Kira's triggers would be put on the stack. End result the Bear will be sac'd and the spell will be countered.
this is where lord comes into the mix. kira wont save the illusions, but it WILL stop lord from dying. that is where it really comes in. with lord and kira out, you cant touch any illusions until you waste a total of 3 kill spells. thats why she is so useful in here
Wouldn't it be the same as casting a counterspell to stop the casting of a spell targeting the bear yes it was targeted but if the spell was countered the spell never targeted for lack of better words, wouldn't the bear live?
no. the targeting of an illusion means it will die, even if the spell is countered. only hexproof and shroud can stop it from dying
Ah. I'm not very fond of blue personally so i don't usually play it so thanks i learned something today
glad we could help :D
But when you Phantasmal Image your Lord it does the same effect, he boosts himself with Hexproof.
if you are trying to say that phantasmal would kill itself then no, it wont. lord of the unreal has passive abilities, so they arent targeting the creatures, more like altering the playing field as a whole, thus if you image the lord, it will still work
This is one of the reasons Redirect won't save your creatures. Will Mizzium Skin save them? It prevents them from being targeted, I'm not sure of the interaction when cast on the stack. (Using the overload of course)
Nice! I love illusions! You might want to check out my artifact deck. :)
i love artifacts
Do you realize that dismiss into dreams does absolutely nothing in this deck unless they target their own creatures?
yes, i can also target them with phantasmal image
phantasmal image doesn't target anything. I checked before I commented just to be sure.
Nope its the same as clone it copies but doesn't target
right okay anyways it does benifit me tho because of krovikan mist, equal to the number of illusions in play.
As i said when i suggested it you would need target abilities to really make use of it in an aggressive manner but it does prevent them casting on their creatures and boosts the mist. Shuts down gods willing etc and forces the other deck to play more onto the table rather than sit with cards in hand especially if you have hexproof up.
nice. too bad no green, or sigarda/progenitor mimic
Jace's Phantasm, Phantom Warrior, Meloku the Clouded Mirror, and Hover Barrier might be some good creatures to look into. Mizzium Skin might help protect illusions, I'm still looking into this one. You also need a few more lands.
Mizzium skin doesn't prevent them from casting spells and using abilities that target your illusions. When they have priority, if they announce they're using an ability or casting a spell that targets one of your creatures that doesn't already have hexproof, the sacrifice trigger goes on the stack and most likely causes you to sacrifice your creatures.
You are talking about when Mizzium Skin is on the stack and not when it is resolved, correct? Because otherwise it actually DOES prevent them from using spells and abilities on your illusions. Barring Glaring Spotlight of course.Also, I just thought of another good card. Gigadrowse might help with Dismiss into Dream. Turns into X, "destroy X creatures"
I was talking about using mizzium skin as saving from removal. It doesn't do anything to save the creatures once they're targeted, but it is a useful layer of protection if you expect they have sorcery speed targeting. Likewise with the glass spinner; it counters the ABILITY that targets the creatures but it doesn't counter the sacrifice clause due to being targeted.
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I would highly recommend some different Lands like Cavern of Souls and Mutavault, and also some Aether Vials.Also, Kira doesn't protect your Illusions, so i wouldn't recommend using 3.I have made a Variant of my own, check it out here: http://www.mtgvault.com/rhodanperry8/decks/the-unreal/
The Kiras are for the Lord of the Unreals. They do get protected.
that's true, but I feel like three is too much. I'd use two and another Phantasmal Dragon.