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you wanna know how it does so well, just ask and i'll tell :) well first off this is not really a stompy but it was the closest red equivalent i could come up with:p An ideal game for me would be this t1- mountain, goblin lackey t2- mountain, goblin piledriver,or,lightning bolt(depending on whether or not they have a creature out) attack with lackey when he hits the opposing player drop a seige-gang into play putting my goblin count at 5-6...opposing player is now at 19p t3-mountain, piledriver again(bolt creatures if necessary), attack with everything which hits for 17 in all via piledrivers ability, drop another siege gang into play. then play brightstone ritual(if no lightning bolt was used) and play voracious dragon devouring all the goblins for an additional 22 dmg, or t3- i will drop a goblin chieftain and hit the other player for 27 dmg and if i have no voracious dragon or chieftain... ...t3- i will attack with everything then fling my other driver at the opposing player, or... t3- i will play piledriver attack with everything and then brightstone ritual and toss a bunch of my goblins with siege-gang... ya know:) whichever options available:) voracious dragon method t3 opposing player is now at -20 health:) which is kinda like a double kill:) Goblin chieftain way puts them at -16 i believe which is a kill and 3/4 :) flinging piledriver t3 puts them at -10 which is a kill and a half:) siege-gang rape way t3 puts them at -8 i believe which is almost a kill and a half:) all of these methods kill the other person before their 3rd turn if i go first forgive me if any of the above math is wrong but i think ya'll get the point :)
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Nice, Sharpshooter def one of my fav cards.
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sharpshooter is one of my favorites as well! but alas... i had to drop him:-p
I have won some very close matches with the sharpshooter. He can come in very handy in clutch matches!
nice. why no Chieftrains? add a Chirurgeon
im gonna sub out warchief for chieftain thanks! hopefully it will speed this deck up even more! chirugeon is a good idea i just cant think of what i would take out for it.
gobs and dragons, they might as well live together, cause they rock socks! i def flike this one!!! think bout putting in bushwhacker, give all your gobs hastes and +1/+1 for how many times you kick him til end of turn, it mite make your wins faster and earlier :)
i seriously considered him! the problem is that i get most of my goblins for free! the only cards i ever really tap mana for are goblin lackey and goblin piledriver, so his kicker is worthless to me because i dont actually cast him. make sense? otherwise it would be a great idea!
Wow batman. Read your cards. The kicker ability isn't MULTIkicker and it only gives them +1/+0 and haste.
lol yea +1+1 would be way to beast, he'd be a rare easy
come on people comment! this is probably the best goblin deck out there!
lol wow. nice.
what is nice? :)
totally revamped this deck and it has the same potential as before but much better consistency:)
Well first off, this can't be Stompy by definition. Past that though, very nice design. Have you considered Goblin War Strike? It would do wonders for this I think =]
lol i know its not stompy.... but putting it as stompy is way better than... need i say... aggro:P bleh. goblin war strike was actually in the original design! but what i would take out is the big question.... if you have any ideas for that let me know!
i think i figured it out:) i'll take out 2 mountains we shall see how this works!
Since you're already cheating cards into play... Aether Vial FTW! Uncounterable goblins is always sick. Also, Skullclamp can slow the deck down a bit, but is absolutely insane card draw in a deck like this.
lol i'll try out both of these changes! thanks!
aether vial is actually a really good idea! any ideas on what i should take out?
Well, although it's obviously pretty good in the deck, I think the Vial is better than Fling by a lot. Also, potentially the war strike's could come out. Just an idea anyways. Also, if you wanted 4 of both the vial and the clamp, then you could potentially drop the dragon idea as having the clamp at least gives you a great lategame backup plan besides a super quick goblin assault.
i dont really care for having skullclamp in this deck no matter how beast it is lol but i think i'll make the changes mentioned here! thanks!
actually now that i think about it more i think i'll add skullclamp over aether vial... the reasoning being that aethervial is best early game and i use allk my mana everyturn for the first 3 turns for sure, so once i was able to play aether vial it would be rather worthless. skullclamp is better late game for the card drawing power! and an extra +1 to attack :)
I'd add assault strobe for the turn 2 attack with lackey, letting you drop 2 creatures from hand and still be able to shoot a lightningbolt for cleanup the same turn. Also, assault strobe will work great for the turn 3 attack with piledriver.
Also: for some tutoring you might want goblin matron to be able to find the siege gang if you don't draw it in starter hand. first turn: lackey. second turn: lightning bolt their first drop, assault strobe and attack - putting first matron in play, tutoring the siege-gang and then putting it to play as well.
i like your idea with assault strobe and lackey which would make him more valuable than instigator by far instead of just a little... goblin matron is a good idea as well, the problem is is that i dont really have any empty slots they can filll and even if i dont have siege-gang in my hand i'll have other goblins i definitely want out..
im thinking about dropping 4 instigator both flings and the warstrikes in favor of 4 aether vials and 4 flame slashes? how does that sound? instigator has only ever slowed me down to be honest.... lol and flame slash is an additional creature control card i could use to ensure lackey getting through... anyway i'll take ya'lls suggestions to heart!
why arid mesa? unless I missed somthing you dont need plains, why take the 1 damage to find a mountain when you could just replace the arid mesas with mountains?
It's called deck-thining. By using arid mesa he will remove 2 cards from the deck but putting only one land to play - making it less likely for him to draw another land in the future.
Thanks cozer! you are exactly right! deck thinning may not seem super useful but it makes a big difference!
also consider warren instigator
warren instigator is definitely sideboard material thanks! he may become main deck after i see how the changes i've made work out! i'll get back to you and let you know:)
if you put the Chirurgeon, squee is a good combo with him. i dont even have to mention goblin grenade :D nice deck
Squee is a good card! the problem is that he cost 3 to play rather than 1 which would throw off the consistency of this deck, i know that i could get him out for free with aether vial but still... i would rather get out chieftain, i'll sideboard him though to add a graveyard cycling factor if i need one :)
oh and i LOVE goblin grenade :)
goblin recruiter is REALLY good to find the goblins you want too.
lol yes he is! unfortunately i dont need him lol i almost always get the cards i need for some reason:p (prolly because i dont need any one thing in particular with this deck to own:D so getting any goblin really is considered getting what i need:p)
Wow... That is a whole lot faster than any of the decks that I have.
lol its built to be fast! it would be worthless without its speed:)
this is rape. I'm going to get a lackey.
lackey is a freaking boss... he has had his way with every deck this has faced XD
the ziege gang combo iz zo rape but 1-2 pyroclazmz drop thiz deck zo quick but the cheiftan makez it harder to mazz kill
siege-gang commander is probably my favorite goblin card to be honest... hes just... so much fun! i love him! but you're right! pyroclasm is beast lol and that is one of the reasons i have chieftain in:) hopefully they wont be able to drop a pyroclasm 2/3 games in the first 3-4 turns:)
Clickslither!!!!!
+ bring back goblin sharpshooter those together.. epic
holy crap! that thing is beast! it has definitely found a spot if i can work him in! sharpshooter was in the original make of this deck but was actually subbed out during the last cut:p but i see the combo you're mentioning with alternating a damage with everysac for clickslither:p but im definitely going to try slither out! however it may be too much for this deck to handle it may have to work in only like 3:-p
totally, he's in my goblin deck. But i havn't posted it yet but he get massive so fast!
lol yea goblins are nastyXD i would love to play your deck sometime! link it to me when yo post it
will do. I have a few i need to dig out and play again and get them on here so you guys can check em' out.
well here it is. We have close to the same idea. but what other way is there to play goblins. http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=145732
checking it and commenting!
-1 clickslither -1 gempalm incinerator +2 goblin assault
gotta have the the assaults man. good job
yea they power up piledriver alot! but they could also lose me some games lol we shall see how it goes :)
the assault is to much of a risk to have:p sorry mate, maybe i'll find another deck for it :)
This is my Deck Goblin! It can be even faster than yours! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=140683
that deck does look pretty nasty! but i fear it will be a tad inconsistent:p either way i would love to play it!
made a few subtle changes :)
I just discovered this deck. It is by far the greatest goblin creation I have ever seen in all the time I have been playing goblins, fantastic job. Here is what I run: Deck link: http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=178967
well thanks! that is quite the praise! i'll be sure to check it out :)
Here is my goblin deck. I have won several times on turn 3 and 4! http://www.mtgvault.com/ViewDeck.aspx?DeckID=188708
Very nice, it does however make me wonder how you'd deal with a burn deck though - if they lightning bolt your lacky turn 1, then your speedy win strategy seems to fall over a bit...
lol not really, it does slow it down of course. but even the best of burns fall before me
ever considered goblin grenade?