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Thank mmmjkx2 for court street denizen, mirror entity, riders of gavony, and cavalry pegasus, these were the cards I needed to complete it.I took cavalry pegasus out for more odrics, but he was helpfulIt would be budget without elspeth and path to exile
Generate human tokens, make your tokens powerful with cathar's crusade, mikaeus, and goldnight commanderPower up a champion of the parish with tokensAgainst another token deck, use phyrexian rebirth and equip felidar umbra to unruly mob to make 2 very powerful creatures
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I like the deck man!Consider lowering that mana curve a bit!For example, consider Honor of the Pure instead of Cathar's Crusade.Accorder Paladin can replace someone ... I just know it.You have a like from me!
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That was what I neededCathar's crusade is just so good, I'll leave one in hereThanks, I knew I could do something with the mana curve
This is one sick deck!
Thanks man, maybe be my next hot deck?
It's on top of the hot page!!!!!
This is one sick deck, be proud!
Any draw card? I always focus on draw/life/creatures/ price/ versatility and adaptability/ speed/ possible weaknesses/ legailty/ "weave" do the cards work together/ and finisher move (If there is one)Ie if your deck is quick and draws alot of cards maybe your weakness is mill...Speed and draw are different. If you can win round 3. That is speed. Not draw.
And you sir have helped me. I will highly consider adding "Odric, Master Tactician" to my own deck. If it plays badly in the future (its in the mail now)
I don't think there is a draw card that could help me, but your suggestions are welcomeYou have helped me too, you are the reason this deck is complete, just read the description for more detailsI agree, odric is badass, you can even choose your opponent not blocking at all! Actually, good-bye cavalry pegasus, I need more chances of getting odric, especially if they kill the first one!
This one is ok "Infiltration Lens" it allows you to draw 2 cards whenever your creature is blocked. Which im sure in some point it will be. Cheap mana too.
Mentor of the meek is a good draw card.
Skullclamp is good here as well - just pop it on a token! Don't attack with that guy though ...
it wont work if hes got crusade or honor of the pure out already tho. Also alot of ppl get pissy in real life if you use skull clamp for even the most noble of reasons. lol.
I would like to introduce those people to my friend:Green Sun's Zenith
I can make way for a mentor of the meek, but mmmjkx2 is right about skullclamp, and mentor can trigger my champion, but maybe infiltration lens, since I can decide with odricBTW, I can't believe Odric is only 24 cents!!Yeah, green Sun's, but this is mono white : (
I mean in general, not for this deck.Dude, Stoneforge Mystic with anybody with double strike and Infiltration Lens. =).
And WHAT! That's insane!The price is like Elixir of Immortality. Apparently people haven't caught on that it's better than relic of progenitus.
Yeah, but when they realize, the price will go up fastHey, I need you guys' honest opinion, which of my budget decks is my best, most flexible, and can beat expensive decks?There's an older player who is really arrogant with BIG ego that keeps beating me (I don't have lots of cards, no money)And I really need to teach him a lesson on respecting new players and that he's not a God at magic.Northy's advice would be useful too
We will help you. That guy sounds like a classic A grade @$$#@£€ to me. The 1$ deck is out, since he will probably flip.Can you tell me what deck he has? If you hit him with the right style and type of deck, you can pull it off easy. For example, I nailed my friend's powerful Dimir mill deck with white weenies. In turn, my other friend steamrolled me with a Simic evolve deck, though he could not stand up to the Dimir mill. This sort of rock-paper-scissors (aggro-midrange-control) is very useful and powerful if exploited. Otherwise, Simic Hydras is a particularly potent budget deck from Nothern.Don't worry, Magic at it's core attacks this kind of s***, which is called "rich kid syndrome". Plus, you got us on your side. Too bad you aren't playing for ante!P.S. If there is any way to get a picture of his face when you best him and/or tell him how much money your deck cost, please do.
He uses orzhov exalted with control most of the time, sometimes mono green infect, but he has lots of decksIt would be nice, but I would like one of my decks so he gets the lesson that some newbies can be good at making decks
Dude, I totally agree with you. My friend in Boy Scouts had a filthy exalt deck (Aurelia was his main). I wanted to beat him, but on my own terms.This token deck will seriously hamper his exalt or infect decks. Creature token decks fear very little. Removal & blocking are almost entirely useless.
Yes, very good point, but what about on a budget of 12$(what I have right now) and if I mass buy it on tcgplayer, how much will the shipping add up to?Could make samurai for 12, maybe bounce and boonMILL deck without jace could be done
Do you live near a card shop or MTG warehouse? Buy your cards there.The best option is head to a garage sale or find a friend with cards to spare. Friday Night Magic helps with the last option.
Nope, the only one in town closed a year ago, my only option is trading(I don't have cards that people need except vault of the Archangel, that guy wants it) so my only option is tcgplayer
To afford this deck, I'll have to take out elspeth, hero of bladehold, and mirror entity, so it won't be as good Maybe take sonic hydras from northy, with another of his really low budget decks (any suggestions?) Or one really kickass deck from him(suggestions on which one) until I have time to come up with a token deck of really low budgetI will inform you of his face when I beat him!
Wait! You need an alternative to Hero of Bladehold and Elspeth ... yeah, use another deck. You simply need Mentor of the Meek and Hero of Bladehold here ...
I would highly recommend add Elspeth, Sun's Champion!!!!
I am debating on that, she is awesome, but ever since I started making this deck, I asked myself "budget or awesome?" 2 of you say awesome? She's in!
I second that motion, if Barracuda's coffers agree!
¿Por que no los dos? I did with my heros of bestow deck XDhttp://www.mtgvault.com/blizard472/decks/budget-heros-of-bestow/http://www.mtgvault.com/blizard472/decks/heros-of-bestow/
Only one card, people will know that it will be budget by taking elspeth out
Damn this deck is good. It is just too good.I have no card to suggest except Light from Within. Though I'm not even sure that could it fit here...
Thank you, no it wouldn't fit because tokens don't have mana costSo what do you think I should do? Have 12$ to fix my problem, including whatever shipping there is from tcgplayer, if there is1. Get this, but in budget( might need your help for that)2. My samurai or bounce and boon3. Your simic hydras (with another deck that would be 4$ and fit like a duel deck, assuming there is no shipping)4. A deck of your opinion that would be good (one of yours) and another one to make duel decks( one of my friends is interested in learning to play magic)Please help me out!Also, that guy thinks that when a creature with infect gets blocked, the other creature doesn't get a -1/-1 counter and the player still gets poison counters, I tried to tell him, but he's arrogant since I'm a newbie. Also did something similar with deathtouch
huh... well that is strange since it says on most infect cards the exact details of what infect is... which DOES put -1/-1 counters on creatures it damages. Perhaps he is thinking of creatures with poison. and deathtouch.... yeah, any amount of damage dealt by a creature with deathtouch is enough to kill any creature that blocks/is blocked by it.
He was saying that deathtouch protects his creature , his friend showed him the rulings and he plays deathtouch right, now, he was really mad that I was rightHis opinion on infect is really off, I'll have to get him the rulings
My double damage deck is very consistent and even in the budgeted form I suggested it highly because it is very cheap to moderate!
+1 like, might do that, waiting for Northy's response, would like duel decks to get my friend into the game(12$ for both decks) Does tcgplayer mass order have shipping cost, if so what is it?If you find a deck that would be duel deck to it and fits the budget, will probably buy those, thank you
Gotta say you are a really good deck maker with two decks on the hot page and to say you're a newbie just wow and you like my decks :P
Thank you, I'm surprised I got 1Just saying I'm such a newbie that I gave to use an evolving wilds in my real life mono green deck because I don't have enough forests, it sucks, but I made it into something surprisingly good with the random cards I have That is why I'm trying to get a set of really cheap good decksBy the way, I friended you, thanks for the nice words : )
Barracuda may be green, but he has vision and takes advice well. He never fails to improve his decks, and that's what puts them over the top. A lot of the token generators were his idea, too.Barracuda, mmmjkx2, and I had a good long conversation on this sort of deck. Barracuda went and made this budget deck, finding Olric to boot! He thought of most of the token generators as well.
Thank you guys for all those nice comments!You guys have been so helpful!
I run a similar deck at our magic night when it's free play. I run path of bravery over crusade and I have GHM, Angelic Overseer and grand Abolisher. A few minor differences but I like the build.
Nice, might add path of bravery, but having a problem here, need Northy's help, so will try to find a place for it afterwardsWould give +1 like if it was posted hereBTW, angelic overseer is such an awesome card!
I suggest that you should remove one thraben doomsayer and one gather the townsfolk for two path of bravery. IMO but it is totally your choice :) I added you too!
http://www.mtgvault.com/abcdefu96/decks/stupid-humans/Northy is the man with a plan here. We started devoting at least one game out of the night to budget decks thanks to his posting budget decks all the time. Adds a little more skill to the game instead of just winning because you have more cards.
So, this is basically like a white weenie deck, but token like? From what you have so far, I'm not sure this deck seems efficient. For starters, you only have three power-up enchantments, which means you are less likely to draw them without any tutoring or drawing more cards. Should increase the number of enchantments you have for more likelihood of drawing them. If running tokens, [Intangible Virtue] is a good card to have for your tokens.On the subject of tokens, token decks really thrive in G/W decks, especially with the new populate mechanic and strong token generators in the recent blocks. Even if you're going for token generators with just white, you don't have the aggro to generate tokens and have a huge board presence, in terms of creatures. Sure you have [Increasing Devotion], but surviving to that point will be difficult when you only have creatures to defend you, and Red and Black decks (among others) can hurt you directly (e.g. Lightning Bolts and discards). Token decks are generally successful when you're aggressive, so you need to find ways to generate as much as you can early and in short amounts of times, and pump them with enchantments for maximum damage. White is known for its ability to stall and control. These cards may not suit this kind of deck but should be considered. Also, some card choices are... skeptical. Instead of [Court Street Denizen], I'd rather have a card like [Banisher Priest] as it offers more utility. Tap a creature? Why not exile? Instead of [Mikaeus, the Lunarch], I would rather have enchantments that pump your creatures. Creatures are much easier to kill than enchantments. There are a lot of cheap, but more effective cards that can work for your deck. Would look into more cards. Don't know if these are just cards you have currently, or not. My thoughts :)
I agree that Barracuda is a little scatterbrained at the moment. This deck needs focusing. Methinks honor of the pure, accorder paladin, and ttue Conviction might do the trick.I disagree with the populate mechanic's use. It lends itself to powerful tokens (Godsire!), not a swarm of saprolings, or aggro decks in general. It's a great midrange tactic, just barely aggro. The really deadly G/W spells buff all the creatures.White is the second most aggresive color, after red, and has the 2nd best weenie creatures after green (Deadly Recluse, Kalonian Tusker). However, look at Mentor of the Meek, Odric, Master tactician, and Hero of the Parish! Look at Elspeth's ability!Each color and guild has several facets to it. The 5 main colors are 26 or so blocks old! White has a dozen strategies to choose from, not just stalling: exile, knight, cleric, lifegain, angel, token aggro (look at soldiers), to name the big ones.White is a perfectly valid token deck choice. The best is a tie between Boros (Assemble the Legion, Frontline Medic Agrus Kos, Wojek Veteran, Aurelia, the Warleader, etc.) and Simic (Mycoloth, Master Biomancer, Doubling Season, Viral Drake etc.) and Golgari (Zombie Infestation, Endless Ranks of the Dead, Master of the Undead, etc.).
I agree that a white token deck is perfectly valid. I have seen white token decks be effective in what they do. Like you stated, his deck is scattered right now, and definitely needs more tuning. The fact that there only adequate detail about the deck and play-style, and since it got on the hot page, I wanted to give some opinion. Barracuda just needs to take some time to research cards for this deck. In a Modern format, there are so many possibilities to choose from, and can be fairly cheap.
Exactly! He should go have some good fun looking for cards. I mean, I loved looking for instants to put in my Jace deck, Knights to put in my two knight decks, and cheap zombies to put in Northern's Zombie deck.
Just hope it doesn't take too much of his time. When I made my first deck, I researched for days looking to see what deck I should use, and what cards and play-styles I should place into it.
The best way to be introduced to deck building is beefing up a starter deck. You learn what the value of cards are (not just price). For example, I started on my M14 Lifegain deck.
And you spend minimal time researching.
Yes, I will fix it, though I won't make it g/w, I already have a selesnya token deck posted here
well made for a human deck! maybe a darksteel armor to protect ordic? but hey thats just me but can you check out my new deck it could use help too http://www.mtgvault.com/macattack907/decks/selesnya-aggro-lifegainwin/
From a quick look, need more consistent lifegain. Auras like [Unflinching Courage] and artifacts like [Loxodon Warhammer] are suggested. Look into it more :)Also like this deck, needs more consistency, not just multiple 1-of or 2-of...Perhaps some cheap ligegain cards such as [Heroes' Reunion] (only cost 2 mana for 7 life... wow :D) and [Heroes Remembered] (sure it has Suspend 10, but with a lifegain deck, you are pretty much stalling like with them [Ajani, Mentor of Heroes]). ***EDIT: You have Heroes Remembered in your sideboard. But fun to have one in your deck for the intense coundown to your lifegain :)
This is a token deck. Therefore, lifegain is based around tokens. Auriok Champion, Soul Warden, Soul's Attendant, Staff of the Sun Magus, Suture Priest, ... Angelic Accord to round that off? Maybe Rest for the Weary, or my favorites; Awe Strike and Acolyte's Reward.Oh, and Barracuda, Rider of Gavony would be great in the sideboard against tribal decks.
pls look at thishttp://www.mtgvault.com/xxxeleshnornxxx/decks/the-new-infinite-turns-combo/
Could anyone spare the time to have their mind blown by an Izzet deck?http://www.mtgvault.com/knightofthehokeypokey/decks/it-jace-2/
tokens huh. intangible virtue would go very well in here. gives your tokens +1/+1 and vigilance. for only 2 mana. :)or also since there is a lot of enchantment hate right now, you could replace cathar's crusade with Door of destinies?
I know all about intangible virtue, but I have lots of creatures in this deck, so it won't affect themI guess I can do that, but cathar's crusade would fit the theme :' (
can you check out my latest deck? i just threw it together, not sure how it will do, but still needs tweaking! thanks http://www.mtgvault.com/macattack907/decks/underworld-destruction/
Sure, I'll look at it tomorrow, can you add a description to it? It will make it easier for me to know what you're looking forAlso, do you like this deck?
yes i did!
My only problem is that you don't have any real way of dealing with anything your opponent plays. You have one Banisher Priest and that's more of a band aid than anything. Investing in a playset of Path to Exile will give you so much control over the board and running Brave the Elements or Rootborn Defenses will give your creatures survive so much more.
Thanks, I forgot to add those (it was supposed to be budget at first, and now if we take elspeth out)
Roflmao! I will remember this description: "You have one Banisher Priest and that's more of a band aid than anything." - Teal Fox.Seriously though, Path to Exile and Mirror Entity are the only 2 cards you have that aren't legal in extended. Just replace them, and you are golden for extended play!
What good removal can I use instead, since banisher priest IS just a band-aid? Maybe a mass removal spell used with brave the elements?
Won't really need removal if you have something like ghostly prison...
Condemn for path wouldn't be too bad of a switch.
Maybe oblivion ring.
I am considering a ghostly prison, but I don't like the fact that condemn gives life to your opponentOblivion Ring is almost a copy of banisher priest. I need a 1 drop, or just prevent my opponent from blocking
Oblivion ring can target any permanent, is easily splashable, and is harder to remove as it's an artifact.How about silence?
Oppressive rays is a one drop
Ohhh and oblivion ring is an enchantment.
You're right, I was thinking about SOL RING. That old banned card.
Sorry for the very late reply, couldn't log on!I'll use condemn right now since it is a 1 drop and the mana curve is not low enough for me
Called Odric's Crusade...doesn't have Crusader of Odric in it...What's up with that?
I kind of thought the same thing. Glad I'm not the only one.
Thanks! I'll find a place for it!Also added cathar's crusade back in since door of destinies doesn't count summoning tokens
You might wanna add a couple Intangible Virtue
Only problem with that is that it doesn't cover non-token creatures.
Yeah, and that's why I didn't add any, although it is a great card for token decks
But it does cover the tokens made by thraben, your 6 sorcerys, elspeth and hero, that attack possibility with the block if necessary could give the edge.
I hate to say it, but this deck sorely needs some focus. It is a little tempermental with all those 1 quantity creatures.