ive found the right sliverdeck

thanks, that's a good idea, I was thinking the surprise bloodush could possibly end the game (deal 16?) but the battledriver could add more synergy. why not side battledriver to trade with thorncaster?

It's up to you for what you think will work best to take out, but i do think battledriver will def. work well with this =p I will agree doublestrike is a nice surprise, but i also like thorncasters ability, you can wipe the field when you attack, it seems really useful

good point, I thought it only hit players with the one damage

Yea i really like his ability, like an upgraded hellrider for slivers only. Target creature or player is really what makes him

I like Signal the Clans simply because it's a good card, but each time i've drawn a sample hand for this deck I always got a good variety of slivers and never really needed one in specific. So even though it is a good idea, I don't really think it's needed.

Kessig Wolf Run will be rotating out soon, he is probably making this deck for post rotation.

That might be useful, but his mana cost is pretty high for the effect.

that door is good an any creature themed deck. Very nice!!!

Im pretty sure he just wants this to be a two color deck.

I don't see that mentioned anywhere so how am I meant to know?

Because he probably would have added the white slivers otherwise.

Yeah, but the Manaweft allows you to splash a little bit of ANYTHING in this one!

I've played mine with BOLAS and DOOR TO NOTHINGNESS!! And I've won with Both!

HotPoloPlayer, as BenWare said, if you have played a sliver deck with Manaweft in it, you don't need to worry about mana colours. Ever. He has 4 Manaweft slivers in there but is not taking advantage of that at all. Flying, Lifelink, Garruk, Domri, HELL I run 2 Aurelias in my sliver deck and she untaps them all so they can attack with her in the second combat phase that she gives! Trust me, us Bens know what we're on about :P

I did fail to see that Manaweft Sliver gave you any color of mana, but replacing Striking Sliver with Bonesycthe Sliver is a bad idea. Removing Striking Sliver would take away this decks only one drop and add another to four, throwing the mana curve off base. But that doesn't mean Bonescythe Sliver is necessarily a bad addition. Even though you can add several white slivers, he does have to stop adding things at some point. And I haven't seen the deck of yours you are talking about, but why do you use Aurelia instead of Sentinel Sliver like you had said earlier?

You do have to worry about that tho, you'd need another source of any mana color other than relying solely on one creature, If he plays manaweft and i doomblade or murder it then everything goes to hell and he wont be able to play any other creatures of other colors. If he had 4 manaweft and 4 chromatic lanterns that might solve the dilemma. but saying that one creature can justify having more colors than the lands make is kinda risky.

And betting on getting one of four cards out of a sixty card deck every time isn't a great idea.

It's just so difficult to keep a manaweft out. Unless you use a backup like chromatic lantern, or my favorite, darksteel ingot, you may be sitting with off color slivers in your hand and no way to play them. Everyone knows how dangerous manaweft slivers are and take them out as fast as possible.

Slivers is and always should be a 5 colour deck. With the current mana base available and Chromatic Latern to boot leaves no excuse other than "it's too hard to work out", so I'll play it safe and make a mediocre 2 colour sliver deck missing out on the ability for flying, lifelink and double strike, along with some great supporters. And HotPoloPlayer, here. It's already won one FNM for me and hopefully many more to come.

http://www.mtgvault.com/bennyboy777/decks/just-a-sliver-please/

Nice deck. To answer your comment though I agree slivers SHOULD be five colored decks, but with the slivers that are in standard now, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Not true Benny, I've faced many sliver decks that are only 2 colors or 3 colors that are better than any 5 color I've seen, Granted 5 colors is easily attainable for slivers, but just because you can doesnt make it best.

Consistency is everything, Will you be wasting turns dropping chromatic lanterns while I'm dropping more and more slivers... Maybe not, but like i said 5 colored sliver decks is just a preference just like anything in magic

Making a two colored sliver decks also make it easier to add non-sliver spells, like this deck has. I would also like to point out that everyone who plays magic has a personal preference and opinion that dictates their play style. So where as you may find one style more effective, and i may find another, we each are right in our own way.

Sorry if i sounded like a mother there.

Both valid points. I myself have seen a few Gruul coloured sliver decks. But as you can see in mine I've managed to do the same thing with 5 colours. Battledriver, Aurelia, Legion Loyalist.

Well if he's going to stay on the 2 colour scheme at least throw garruk and domri in, I mean it won't be hard to cast Garruk and he keeps your hand nice and full.

Very true.

That's what I'm saying. And by that time if there is still a need for him to be out... You will probably be able to cast a fuck ton of those creatures! ^_^

@Benny_boy: While 5 colored slivers are fun there is just not enough space nor consistency to warrant adding the blue or black slivers in standard, in other formats these would rock. I chose to go Naya colors with my sliver deck because of the ability to add some element of field control. Here is my build. http://www.mtgvault.com/serriz/decks/naya-sliver/

He is probably making this deck ready for when those rotate out.

That would apply to the maybe!

I still don't see a "this is post rotation deck" phrase anywhere from him...

I'm just stating that as a possibility. He is only using M14 and Ravnica cards, so i'm assuming that is for a reason.

Well, just saw that I forgot to post the actual link lol...

http://www.mtgvault.com/saoshyant4329/decks/standard-competitive-slivers/

Door of Destinies is ok. Not really necessary in a Sliver Deck.

Agreed. DoD needs support to stay around and the creatures to benefit from it. Casual tabletop yes. You don't want to be casting DoD, you want to be casting more slivers. SLivers need more Slivers on the field, not a door.

I actually like the door! As stated above, it isn't necessary, however, I can say that it makes folks think ALOT about removing the Door when every time one hits the field they grow even more! Slivers are AWESOME, and the door just makes them....uhhh.... AWESOMER!?

Doom blade enough said.

Why use Doom Blade when you can use Shock or Mizzium Mortars? That way you don't have to rely on one creature to generate the mana needed.

DoD is made for tribal decks, it is a key essential. It has also saved my creatures from a lot of burn spells. Just saying.

I agree that Door of Destinies is made for tribe based decks, but with this deck it seems better to just drop more slivers like Benny said. Casting more slivers already boosts your other slivers, Door of Destinies would just put you a turn behind.

Or you could use removal spells on your own Slivers (1 and 2 drops) and replay them to make DoD larger. Slivers are too slow in this set to just run Slivers, you have to run heavy control to make it truly effective. Trust me, I have play tested a few Sliver decks and done extensive research. Sliver control is the only one that really holds it's ground.

Hey Roar, you mind checking mine out and offering up some chunks of advice too?

http://www.mtgvault.com/benware/decks/sliver-of-chance/

Yeah, where's the Metallic sliver? So much cheaper than the sliver construct!

It depends. I personally like bant slivers more, but its up to preference.

Naya slivers are better for aggro because they have haste and hellrider sliver(Way better than hell rider)

How in the world is a deck full of slivers not a sliver deck?

I love your username.

Dudeface is awesome.

Not that part, the "I've found the right sliver deck", when clearly he hasn't. Has this deck even seen play? Cos if it has the name would be more along the lines of "I've found a great sliver deck for playing at home with my mates but other than that not really."

You've been rather polite on this thread Benny, but that was a rather dick thing to say. This deck is perfectly fine. Just because it doesn't fit your play style doesn't mean it's bad.

I never said it was bad, not once. I was being brutally honest. It's a good deck. For playing at home. And if this is what it's for, great, it's good for that. But that's it. I never tell anyone their deck is bad, that's not in the social atmosphere that magic is set it in. I just appreciate the odd bit of irony here and there.

I see your point. Everyone has to start somewhere though. I've been working on my sliver deck since a month before 2014 came out,and I am just now happy with it. Feel free to take a look.
http://www.mtgvault.com/dudeface1369/decks/slivers-with-range/
I feel like slivers in this release are not made for aggro. Granted,with Manaweft the mana curve is so much easier to manage, but it's also very difficult to keep manaweft out. Between unsummon and Supreme Verdict, I can't seem to keep anything useful out. That's why I build as a midrange deck with plenty of removal and counter removal. I also think white is an essential color for this block's slivers. Just my opinion though.

Thanks for the compliment Benny! I love my name.

I like your name too but it was HotPoloPlayer who originally said it :P

Well damn. This has not been a day of intelligence for Dudeface...Anywhoo, thanks to you too Polo.

Where? I see a lot of opening hands where you'd say, this is good I'll keep this, now I just need - oh wait I've already lost cos I'm still ramping.... and Oh and my hand is empty what will I do now?

What do you mean by 'lost cos I'm still ramping'?

Ok look at the deck and tell me what mana ramp is in it? Then think, once you've FINALLY gotten all these great slivers out, what next? Topdeck for the rest of the game with an aggro deck? Good luck... What are you gonna do if your opponent wipes the board? Scoop.

I don't understand a word either if you are saying. You guys need to refine these comments.

"It good deck for home"

"It no good for competitive play"

Well, you do have a good point there. Suggestion to anders1999 - add some mana accel to the deck.

You don't need acceleration in this deck. Manaweft takes care of that. What is missing is the ability to get more creatures out midgame. Garruk, Caller of Beasts and Descendants' Path(until it rotates), or Domri Rade are what is really needed.

Even better point there.

http://www.mtgvault.com/bennyboy777/decks/just-a-sliver-please/

There. perfect mix of draw and ramp. And I know it works as I have already won 1 FNM with it.

Check out the deck I went undefeated during game day.

http://www.mtgvault.com/mcman57/decks/slivers/

Yeah pretty good deck man, who's the tosser downvoting us? lol

Thanks, that guy is pretty annoying

I'm not fully sure who you are addressing, Anders.

Sliver decks do not need Door of Destinies. Slivers pump themselves and spending five mana and wasting a turn just isn't worth it.

I use the Door EVERY SINGLE GAME with my sliver deck. It stays out even when a sliver that pumps is removed. I think it works great in this deck, but it's not mine. To each his own!

DoD is too slow, slivers are not slow. Slivers are fast and pump themselves. You guys wanna play DoD? Go for it, meanwhile I'll keep winning....

I win with mine too, Mr. Sheen! And, I use the Door! I also, run two doubling chants, which are a high cmc, but with the chants, the door, and a few slivers, my deck gets out of control REALLY fast. But what ever floats your boat!

Unfortunately doubling chant is not standard. I did try door of destinies the first time with my sliver deck. I got it out with garruk and descendants' path and it was kind of nice. I only got to use it one game out of ten though.

If you play a DoD you may as well just tell your opponent ok I'm paying five mana to do nothing. DoD is cute, but maybe we will see better use for it in Theros. MAYBE.

Door of Destinies isn't bad, it just isn't for this deck and a lot of times you can find a better alternative.

Yeah if you're gonna play it at least have the support behind it.

I wish they would reprint Coat of Arms instead of DoD. It always seems like less of a threat until you overrun your opponents.

OH MY GOD! WE HAVE THE NEXT EINSTEIN RIGHT HERE PEOPLE!!! WHAT A FUCKING GENIUS!!!

Yep, so remove then and lets make a real sliver deck

So you are saying that a sliver deck must use NOTHING but slivers? Seriously?

ABSOLUTELY!!! SLIVER DECKS CANNOT HAVE ANYTHING BUT SLIVERS!!1! There, now I played the part of the jackass.
But seriously, Slivers are better with just slivers, but sometimes there are other things, say mana, that are useful in the deck as well.

Nah man, like castroa says, 60 slivers, nothing less. That's what we should be doing, seeing as he knows everything there is to know about magic we need to listen to him. There's no arguing with his logic.

this deck was for the standard environment about 2 years ago. it's not even competitive in older formats