what's a mana curve

by Alfred on 01 May 2020

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Deck Description

Constructive criticism appreciated

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How to Play

This deck teaches that you don't need a mana curve to have a good deck.

Deck Tags

  • Noobcamp
  • 2 colour

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Mana Curve

Mana Symbol Occurrence

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Deck Format


Modern

NOTE: Set by owner when deck was made.

Card Legality

  • Not Legal in Standard
  • Legal in Modern
  • Legal in Vintage
  • Legal in Legacy

Deck discussion for what's a mana curve

This is budget?
Has emrakul fallen in price ?

Also let me know if you give up on the advanced paperstrips, I have a more primitive version of it as well.

And was this inspired by ramp wars ?

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Posted 01 May 2020 at 23:31

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Whoops this deck was originally a deck to get Lukka banned but then I tested it and it was really fun, and maybe subconsciously it was, but I don't think so

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Posted 01 May 2020 at 23:33

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You ShOuLd UsE ThIs to TeaCH PeoPle AboUt A PROpeR MaNa CuRve (Noobcamp)

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Posted 01 May 2020 at 23:36

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I am using paper strips on the deck I won my last tournament in I will show you the finished result Also used it on a tier one deck I made about a year ago and it remade what happened to become a tier one deck so it works

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Posted 01 May 2020 at 23:41

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Heh, I've never wanted to ban/restrict cards as I believe there can always be a way to beat a deck.

Teaching people about manakurver feels wrong to me, as I stopped believing in them years ago
It was a construct made by a single human, and his success in one tournament immortalized his concept,
But as years went by and my computer generated lots of manasolutions, few behaving like curves, I shortly tried to convince others that manacurves were a fraud. I even dug up the original article on the topic, and showed that it was too loose even to work as an advice.

If you want to do research on it yourself the deck behind the claims is referred to as geeba, was played by Paul Paul sligh, but was designed by Jay Schneider. Back then the whole thing was connected to mana optimization.
In the article behind the "tech" Jay Schneider describes a guideline with so many variations that you could build thousands of decks and not deviate from the advice. So when people started to make their own "manacurves" jay sort of got the credit for it by default, like modern medicinal companies patenting a genome as theirs to get all the patents.

Don't just use the strips to defeat a single deck, it will do so, but will degenerate against everything else, but nice way to run a fast proof of concept :)

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 04:13

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The last time I tried to ban a card I accidentally made a tier one deck but I think mana curve is good for midrange/tempo decks but not really anything else

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 04:35

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I spent around 10 years fighting the public with computer generated manacurves, I ended up in a simulation war, with me on the leading front, before someone discovered my password and sabotaged my results. It was quite a shock to me that someone would sabotage something that would improve the game for everyone.

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 04:51

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That sucks that someone hacked your account but yeah this deck is a great example of how you don’t need a mana curve to have a good deck

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 05:06

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Would you care if I put this under noobcamp to show that mana curves aren’t always important?

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 05:07

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You go ahead and tag it as you want;)

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 06:23

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Thanks

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 06:23

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No problem alfred ;)

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 06:25

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Im curious as to why Desolation Twin was chosen here, out of all the eldrazi?? Its ability doesnt trigger from Lukka's -2 ability, so you'd have to hard cast it every time to get its twin. Pretty much any of the eldrazi titans would be more effective, especially to cheat out. If you skipped them because of their hefty price tags, there is still Spawnsire of Ulamog, providing more mana/chump blockers or Void Winnower, which can be devastatingly restricting to opponents. And both of these can still be sac'ed to lukka to upgrade to pathrazer or worldspine.

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 08:44

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He was cheaper price wise but you are right I will change it

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Posted 02 May 2020 at 10:44

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