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Angel + Demon reanimator. Constructive Criticism Wanted.
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Things to consider:Kaalia isn't doing you much good. You don't have much she really affects. You'd be better off finding other ways to get Tariel on to the field if she's there to get him out, or you might want to consider other creatures she could actually benefit.Mortify.Lingering Souls.I think both of these would be huge cards in this deck, and both just became a ton more accessible with the release of the last duel deck. People will be up to their knickers in these cards.You have a ton of Mana for your curve. Most of your deck is 2 drops, and you have a few things that are huge. You'll play out your hand by turn 3 or 4, and just be holding your big things for 4 more turns with nothing new hitting the battlefield. I'd consider dropping down to at most 24 and maybe even as low as 20 or 21 if....... you change how this deck plays. You seem pretty intent on dropping fatties as your win condition, so why not go all out? Run a reanimate deck. Throw in some reanimate staples like Buried Alive, Entomb, exhume, Unburial Rites, and the whole legacy reanimate suite, maybe even breath of life if you really want to avoid going mostly black. I think that an approach like this would strongly benefit this deck.Even if you don't go full reanimate, it might be good to throw in things like Faithless looting and sign in blood so you can pitch cards in your hand and speed up your game so you can keep getting your cheap 2 drops out and fish for your fatties. If you do run faithless looting (or wild guess) be sure to pick up Unburial Rites.
I can't tell which format this deck is for.I think if you're going to include Kaalia, then you should be willing to cheat in more effective Angels, Demons, and Dragons:Angel of Despair - Destroy things!Angel of Serenity - Bring things back, remove threats (temporarily is fine).Avacyn, Angel of Hope - Prevent your creatures and what you steel from being destroyed.Iona, Shield of Emeria - Prevent your opponent from casting a dangerous color.Demon of Death's Gate - Hard to cast, easy to cheat, and has a cheat cast that works well with your low drops.Griselbrand - The demon that fills your hand; why wouldn't you cheat him!?Rune-Scarred Demon - Find what you'll cheat next or look for an answer to what your opponent played.Malfegor - Blocker removal that gives more reanimation targets for Tariel.Thundermaw Hellkite - Prevent blockers with a chance of eliminating bird/pegasus/spirit tokens that are all over the place.Not all of them, you should be picky on which you use and which your don't based on who you play with and how they build.I also think;Terminate is bad since you run 4 Charm 2 Mortars 2 Dreadbore. Damnation or Divine Reckoning fits that slot better. If you go with the Kaalia plan, then Divine Reckoning is the path!Sheoldred will take too long to cast. You might prefer to cheat in the 9-costing angel; Reya Dawnbringer.
If it has the commander cards, it would only be eternal legal, so it won't work in modern, standard, extended, etc.I disagree with the removal of terminate, but strongly agree that more boardwipes would be really good. Only thing is he's running a bunch of cheap creatures, and the wipes will hit him pretty hard in early game.
Deck list has been updated! I decided to go reanimator with it! Tell me what you think og it now!
Careful.You're diving in to the deep end. You're going to need more spells to actually get your dudes out of the graveyard. I'd suggest dropping some form of your creature removal. You don't need 12 instant speed creature-poppers. Drop some amount of terminates, mortifies, or Orzhov charms and replace them with more ways to get your creatures out of the graveyard. I would strongly suggest adding 2x exhumes and 4x unburial rites or reanimate. You really NEED more ways to reanimate.You may also need to consider either Demonic Tutor or Faithless looting in place of Rakdos's return and/or mizzium mortars.So, for sure, try and get more cards to get your folks out of the graveyard, and maybe even a few more ways to get them in...
deck list updated again with adjusted numbers! this better?
I think Firemane Avenger lost it's spot in this deck. You dropped much of your lower creatures so the chance for battalion dropped from very possible to unlikely status.I think you need more survival tactics early on. Ethersworn Canonist is good at slowing the game down and your build is about casting basically 1 spell a turn so it wouldn't be too restricting.Linvala, Keeper of Silence and Stony Silence can slow down combos until they remove your stopper. Dampening Matrix works well in both of their steads but you can fetch Linvala to your graveyard from your deck with Entomb and then Exhume it the next turn.
Updated again. Added Jin-Gitaxias for added hand control, draw, and discard
Well, the deck has certainly changed since your first version. Interestingly, you've got so many demons and angels, that you might actually want to consider bringing Kaalia back in. You'll be able to hardcast her and use just about any other creature in your deck.Other substitutions you may want to consider would be Griselbrand for Geth. I believe you'll find that you'll rarely have the mana available to use his ability, and Griselbrand is silly good in Reanimate decks.Silly good.As it looks now, I think you're approaching as much of a reanimate deck you can get in these colors. If you're looking to be legacy competitive, you'll need to start splashing blue for FoW, brainstorm, daze and a control suite. However, with this theme, it is looking pretty good.Your next steps should be:You'll have to play around with your manabase a bit to find what works. This includes looking at shocklands, maybe some lorwyn filterlands, maybe you want to go swamps + tainted lands, or even go all out and start getting some fetchlands.Consider getting some tutors (depending on the format you'll be playing) Demonic Tutor is usually a pretty good balance of affordable (because it is banned in Legacy and restricted in Vintage) and powerful.Consider speed, if you want even more black, the way to go is Dark Ritual. Always fun to -> swamp-ritual-entomb-exhume-Iona on turn 1. hard to come back from that.Make sure that you're happy with your deck.I admit my bias that one of my favorite decks I've ever built is angel-themed reanimate:http://mtgvault.com/vikingincarnate/decks/angels-from-the-grave/and I didn't want to push you to end up with a mirror copy, I just think it's great when a player has a deck that they really enjoy. Unless you're going competitive- make a deck you're happy with.Unburial Rites might be a better option in your deck right now than Breath of Life ( I know, I'm starting to sound like a broken record) but you can now tutor for it with Entomb, and you can pitch it with Faithless Looting. From the graveyard, it IS breath of life.
i like what u r trying to do here. but i agree, use unburial rites in this!!!! breath of life is great but look at the deck itself. if u use rites, u can use only 3 and have room for one more land, i would suggest maybe a search land. playing some sample hands it has a lot of dead hands unable to get enough mana to get out of the gate. other than that, i would say play test it and see how it functions, then tune from there.http://cardgametalk.wordpress.com/
Looking at this deck now, I don't think you need Tariel. You have nothing to get your opponents cards into their graveyards.
The deck list has been updated once again and (hopefully) for the final time. Thank you all so much for helping me with this deck. It's an idea I've had for a while now and I'm glad to see it come to fruition
Jin-Gitaxias was never an option. Kaalia can't drop him and you don't draw until right before you discard. Also, you opponent has a whole turn to have an answer to him before he has to discard since none of your reanimate spells are instant speed.Demon of Death's Gate lost his spot when you dropped the low-costing black drops you had.For your lands, I recommend at least: 4 Dragonskull Summit, 4 Isolated Chapel, 11 Swamp, 2 Mountain, 1 Plains. If you insist on only basics, I believe 11 Swamp, 6 Mountain, 5 Plains could work.You have no hand disruption or mass removal. I recommend at least 3 mass removal and 4 of either normal removal or hand disruption. The mass removal could be Divine Reckoning or Damnation. The removal or hand disruption might look like a choice over Mortify vs Thoughtseize.
If you want this to be a legal deck all you have to do is remove Demonic Tutor.
this deck is pretty much going to be for casual play lol
Very well built man =) I'd love a match against this with my reanimator, but I think the outcome would depend on the diceroll, haha. Kicking and screamingly good this masterpiece truely is. 'Unburial Rites' seems a tad expensive, have you thought of 'Reanimate' or 'Animate Dead'? Still, Good job, sir !Angel's and Demon's FTW =D Check out my reanimator if you like - its built around 'Mishra' =)http://www.mtgvault.com/blckfirphoenx/decks/mishra-reanimator/
thanks man! It wouldn't be well built without all the helpful comments and tips on how to make it so much better!